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Chernozem Comment 1 15 Jun 2010, 10:38 AM

Create a buy local guide for Red Deer and area.

Create an inventory of local producers and assemble it into a guide to help residents source locally made food and products. Work with the Chamber of Commerce to create a self guided tour for residents and tourists.

Old One Comment 1.1 15 Jun 2010, 6:40 PM

Isn't that what phone books, the newspapers, flyers and the internet are for?

EagleBone Comment 1.1.1 1 Oct 2010, 5:03 PM

If phone books, the newspapers, flyers and the internet could help residents source locally made food and products I'm all for it. At the moment they don't identify local goods.

Old One Comment 1.1.1.1 3 Oct 2010, 9:37 PM

Good point :) But that's probably because the possible suppliers / vendors you're thinking of either can't afford to pay for the advertising or don't think it's worth it. Which begs the question "Who should pay for it?" I don't think it should be City taxpayers; do you?

Red Deerian Comment 1.1.1.1.1 7 Oct 2010, 10:32 AM

We are taxed enough, already, with the high housing assessments and user fees etc. etc. Let's not add another!

nan1 Comment 2 16 Jun 2010, 1:41 PM

Collecting household compost year round. In the winter it may be once every two weeks or once a month.

Improved bussing so there is less reliance on cars

J1Robertson Comment 2.1 28 Oct 2010, 9:26 AM

Potentially set up one or several central compost drop-off places around the city, instead of collection

Raven Comment 3 17 Jun 2010, 12:17 PM

We urgently need initiatives to reduce our reliance on fossil fuels e.g building codes that can get us off the grid and on to green energy supplies as soon as possible - the technology is readily available and will save not just pollution problems but energy costs in the future.

Less road building and much better transit to get people out of their cars.

Boynorth Comment 4 1 Oct 2010, 5:49 PM

The Landfill - Why is city residential yard waste products (tree trimming - etc.) only free for dumping at the landfill for certain week(s) each year??

Also - this past spring - many people brought sod - and were informed it had to go into the landfill - since the dirt is too abrasive on the compost cutters...

Same with any coniferous tree branches - too sappy/acidic for composting...

This should be better explained to residents (seasonal mail-box drop, etc.) when the free yard waste week is announced...

OR -

Better yet - consider alternatives for the products - to keep them more…

 

Old One Comment 4.1 3 Oct 2010, 9:54 PM

It's great that you are thinking about these issues :)...But they are a lot more complicated than you realise. Alberta Environment (quite rightly) has a list of requirements as long as your arm for the proper & safe methods for disposal of every kind of waste we generate. If composting, burning, etc were so simple (and even close to costeffective), everybody would be doing it; but they're not!

The City does the best it reasonably can; (though they could certainly consider extending yard-waste collection to add kitchen waste year-round; assuming you & I are willing to spend more money every month more…

 

Boynorth Comment 4.1.1 3 Oct 2010, 11:50 PM

so - if a plasma generating plant is a few years off ( I recall this was slated for construction in the County...) could not material be segregated and stockpiled now?? -

If it is going into the landfill - why not have segregated landfill areas - simply stockpile the items - and then they are available when the technology is available - if it never happens - the material is still landfilled - if it happens - more landfill space is liberated - extending the usable time period of the existing facility...

I do agree - that if there is a pilot plant in Ottawa - it makes no sense to spend any $$ building one here - until the technology there is proven successful...

ok - I'm breathing -.... LOL

J1Robertson Comment 4.1.2 28 Oct 2010, 9:32 AM

Maybe the old and current landfills could be "strip mined" and emptied to provide materials to Plasco, as well as providing a new source of recyclables AND a second chance to fish some hazardous wastes out of the ground that were improperly disposed of in the first place.

Hairy Comment 4.2 4 Oct 2010, 7:22 PM

Just wondering.. what's the big deal with sod and coniferous branches. They're going into the landfill, just like what would happen in nature.

Incinerating burnable waste is coming but I doubt the facility (if ever operational) would be able to handle everything. It's better off being used to gasify the more harmful waste.

I do agree with the need for winter yard waste. I would bet the lads would pick up properly bundled branches with the regular garbage. i.e. if you don't mind it going into the landfill.

Boynorth Comment 4.2.1 22 Oct 2010, 7:32 PM

Hairy - I have clipped any branches off our 50 year old spruce tree down to reasonable lengths - bundled them in tight small enough "bales" tied with string - and the Garbage guys (absolutely incredible where I live) have ALWAYS taken them... But with loose branches - the hazard of getting poked in the face -or whatever - isn't worth it for them - and I do not blame them one bit...

As far as landfilling versus nature - (coniferous branches and sod) - landfills are anaerobic - oxygen does not get down into them - so nothing deteriorates...

In nature more…

 

Sheila Comment 5 12 Oct 2010, 4:11 PM

Keep the Summer Market. Use it to info people of balcony compost bins and balcony gardening. Use the Market to give info about how to better use the City for Staycations - give a wonderful basket of goodies to a winner or three who post ideas and photos of their Red Deer Staycation in our Park System. Maybe another prize for a back yard Staycation, and one for the Winter for sure.

Keep City Hall Park and the clock and making downtown a lovely place.

I would like to see each sub-division, not only with the names all the same Letter but with the history of the names posted some where - in a Park? Make each sub-division unique. Get the residents involved. Riverside completely took charge of their neighbourhood and it is looking good!

Caser41 Comment 5.1 22 Oct 2010, 11:35 AM

Sheila, I certainly agree with your comments on the Summer Market. And to that point I would add: the City should have a booth set up there every week, if they don't. There are numerous tourists there. One question for you, Sheila, how did the residents of Riverside "take charge of their neighbourhood"?

Boynorth Comment 5.2 22 Oct 2010, 7:42 PM

Sheila - your idea of "staycation photos!! - WONDERFUL!!!

I happen to bike throughout the park system for exercise and tranquility- (even went yesterday - Oct 21) - and have dozens of wonderful photos - we are able to enjoy fresh air and a break from concrete buildings - right within our great City!!!

I do notice that often the parks picnic areas appear to be under-utilized - then we head over to set up - and everyone in town shows up the same night - LOL - whooda thunk???!!

Sonja Comment 6 12 Oct 2010, 7:02 PM

Create Pedestrian Friendly (and accessible!!) Shopping Areas & Neighborhoods!

The 'box store' shopping areas are awkward to walk around & across. In a wheelchair or for a visually impaired person, they would be dangerous.

I understand that the new area behind Michener Centre is striving to be a walkable neighborhood! I think that this is excellent and that it is fitting with the great job that Red Deer has done to date with the amazing trail system!

Treehggr Comment 7 15 Oct 2010, 2:13 PM

Plow all hiking and biking trails in teh winter to encourage environmentally friendly modes of travel, like walking and biking, year round. It would also encourage people to use the parks system recreationally year round by providing low cost recreational options that all residents could afford. For a small amount of money we could reduce polution and make our general population healthier.

Old One Comment 7.1 21 Oct 2010, 11:10 PM

Some trails already are plowed / swept in the winter, but doing them all would increase pollution and the cost of winter operations.

Treehggr Comment 7.1.1 22 Oct 2010, 6:52 AM

The City already plows the roads through McKenzie park twice a week even if they don't need it. Diverting road plowing like that once a month would add no more polution but would provide access to many more people. The amount of polution removed by people walking instead of driving would counter any added by the plowing process.

Boynorth Comment 7.1.1.1 22 Oct 2010, 7:11 PM

and then we only have to find a way to get the weather to cooperate - not many want to walk when it's -20c Brrrrrrrr!!!

Hairy Comment 7.1.1.1.1 23 Oct 2010, 5:02 AM

You must visit 3 Mile Bend in the winter then Boynorth. Of course the trails there never get ploughed even though it's one of the most popular spots for walking in ANY weather. On the other hand the trail along riverside drive gets ploughed and is barely used. Same with sidewalks on 67st bridge area. Lots of ploughing little pedestrian traffic.

Boynorth Comment 7.1.1.1.1.1 23 Oct 2010, 6:54 AM

It would make sense that trails at an off leash area would get plowed... ...strange - huh??

and the trails there would not be any good for x-country skiing... ...not with all the doggy klister...

Old One Comment 7.1.1.2 22 Oct 2010, 11:52 PM

Diverting road plowing isn't going to happen - there isn't enough done now! Anyway most hiking & biking? trails are used for additional activities - many people are driving to them - so plowing more paths/trails, etc is bound to increase pollution; unless you'd like to walk there & clear them with a snowshovel?

Boynorth Comment 7.1.1.2.1 23 Oct 2010, 6:58 AM

maybe we all need to invest in snowshoes... ..."hey" there goes another couple hundred bucks outta my pocket!!!" we either pay a bit more to have something done or pay more to not have it done - either way we pay!!!

Treehggr Comment 7.1.1.2.2 23 Oct 2010, 7:59 AM

I used the Mackenzie park roads as a mear example. They are being plowed twice a week, every week, whether it is needed or not so diversion of that plow would be polution neutral. There are many internal trails through the City that connect various parts of the City that are not being plowed but would see much greater foot traffic if they were plowed. E.G. the South Bank trail from Waskasoo to Lower Fairview and on to Westpark. Even if a bit more air polution is added it would encourage more people to use the trails both for transport and recreationally during the winter.

Hairy Comment 7.2 25 Jan 2011, 11:14 AM

Agreed, and why not make our creeks into skating lanes?

EagleBone Comment 8 20 Oct 2010, 11:02 PM

Reduce light pollution; street lights; why do they have to shine up?, city yards lights look like air craft landing lights, office buildings lit at night? (high municipal taxes on electric energy use after 9 PM), tax rebates on better more efficient dimmer (better directed) light fixtures, all saves $$$ in the end

Boynorth Comment 8.1 22 Oct 2010, 10:53 AM

Some lighting fixtures require more energy too "start up" after being off - than to remain on 24/7 - the savings of being off for 12 - 14 hours is not offset by the start up energy required by the ballasts...

I wonder if other cities are doing anything to reduce "light pollution??

NelMel Comment 8.2 22 Oct 2010, 12:34 PM

Whenever I drive through downtown after dark, the city hall is lit on every floor, in every room, every time. I understand some lighting outdoors provides some safety, but the inside energy usage is emabarassing.

Boynorth Comment 9 22 Oct 2010, 10:58 AM

Roundabouts.... - there are certainly numerous intersections that would benefit from converting to roundabouts - rather than traffic control lights... - not all - but some - mostly where traffic is below threshold levels...

How has the one in Sylvan Lake worked so far for them???

Is Red Deer considering installing any - or are any installed as of yet???

While they regulate traffic - they also do not require vehicles to sit and idle and wait when there is no cross-directional traffic...

I visit White Rock, BC and from one roundabout - they have now numerous ones - all across the city...

Red Deer would definitely benefit from roundabouts

Old One Comment 9.1 23 Oct 2010, 12:11 AM

The Sylvan Lake roundabout is at the intersection of Hwy 20 & Hwy 11a (owned by Alta Transportation) and replaced a 4-way stop. So far the concensus is that it has definitely improved the intersection operation, queuing is reduced and risk of serious collisions is way down. (Although you can't prevent idiots from trying to fly their 3/4 T p/ups right over the middle, or truckers with large loads proving that licenses are obtained too easily!)

Roundabouts usually require more land than a signalized intersection, but there is no on-going cost for electricity & maintenance/replacement of the signals :)

As a frequent user of it, I see that people are unsure of themselves approaching it, wait too long or will stop while in the circle. Those with european driving experience can astound locals by showing that they know how to shift, steer, brake & accelerate through a roundabout at about twice the speed of a freaked-out Canuck! without tipping their vehicle over. By all means, lets have more of them where they can be fitted in.

Boynorth Comment 9.1.1 23 Oct 2010, 7:02 AM

it could benefit from illustrative signage... I watched an older driver approach the circle - pause - made sure no traffic was coming - then turned left into the circle - travelled 90 degrees - and proceeded along his way - nothing to show him "go clockwise - 3/4 way around"...

Boynorth Comment 10 22 Oct 2010, 11:04 AM

Community online forums....

There are over 20 communities in Red Deer...

Each one is unique - sporting their individual advantages, personalities and problems.

Why can the City not start an online forum - not unlike what we have right here - but have it divided into communities - and even "micro-communities"

I live in an older development - part of a main community - but we are individual from our community - we have our own set of features, and problems...

Being able to discuss things - build a micro-community association - would go far to improving our neighbourhoods...

Think of it like developing numerous small diamonds - each on their own - not too impressive - but when brought together in a well designed arrangement - these micro-diamonds can be stunningly gorgeous!!!

No city can ever hope to be a 100 karat diamond - but a cluster of smaller diamonds - that is very possible - if we have not achieved it up till now - it is time to bring new ideas to the table

boynorth@shaw.ca

Caser41 Comment 10.1 22 Oct 2010, 11:28 AM

Boynorth, I certainly agree with your statement regarding roundabouts (traffic circles). I have lived, and traveled in Europe and in Canada, and see that most countries solve their high traffic problems with roundabouts. Red Deer should have more!

Regarding your views on community online forums, I disagree. I believe one forum, (this one) should suffice. It is more convenient to have all the views from across the city in one place. One does not have to hop from forum to forum. Also if there is one community that has more people online it might create a conflict between communities. Especially if there is, (not likely) a community with no one online. And it does make it more convenient for our friends at city hall to read one column where numerous people from across the city are commenting on a specific point, I would think. My 2 cents worth!

Boynorth Comment 10.1.1 22 Oct 2010, 11:58 AM

Caser41 - maybe I was not really clear in what a community forum would look like.

It would "semi-private" - each person could select their community - and discuss the situations unique in their community

Someone from a new subdivision - who is struggling with traffic congestion from construction equipment at odd hours - has nothing to gain from a resident in a 50 year old neighborhood dealing with old infrastructure - lowe income housing (slumlords) and the like...

Having community specific forums would only be at the menu level - pick your community - enter - add your two bits -

Again - it will take a lot to create one "Hope Diamond" - but we can create many mini-diamonds which then can be arranged into a wonderful piece... d:o)

Why do you think a one size fits all approach is better? - I am curious - since you may have some thoughts I have not considered.... Care to share??

Caser41 Comment 10.1.1.1 22 Oct 2010, 3:46 PM

Hello Boynorth. Thanks for clarifying that for me. I had understood from your comments that each community would have their own forum, and be off on their own so to speak. Now as I understand it from what you say, they would actually be a 'sub-forum' under a 'general forum'. That makes sense to me. For example a problem such as an intersection problem would probably be in the 'general forum' as it affects everyone in the city. A problem such as a community centre would be in that communities forum. Are we on the same page.

Boynorth Comment 10.1.1.1.1 22 Oct 2010, 7:09 PM

@Caser41 - yep - we are on the same page - same book - sitting across from each other at the library - LOL...

the general Forum could be titled - "Community Forum" - under that heading - Anders, Bower, Clearview Meadows, etc...

If I want to read Eastview - easy enough - but if I also want to read what Anders folks are chatting about - easy to slide into that Forum...

Caser41 Comment 11 22 Oct 2010, 11:40 AM

The welcome to Red Deer sign at the south end of the city is in the wrong place. It is at the end of a 'pullover'. When a vehicle, especially the trucks pullover, you can not see the sign. It should be at the other end of this pullover. Note # I cannot think of the proper term for these pullovers, rest stops?

Boynorth Comment 11.1 22 Oct 2010, 11:59 AM

Nice catch on this - also it creates a safety problem - people see it at the last moment if blocked by a semi load - and try to change lanes quickly at highway speeds to get over to the right.....

Boynorth Comment 12 22 Oct 2010, 11:46 AM

Push reel mowers

How can we reduce all the number of gas and electric lawnmowers currently being used???

A gas lawnmower creates more pollution than a 2010 car driving from Vancouver BC to Halifax NS. Not to mention they completely are the noisiest thing going!!! -

Electric mowers - while quieter - still require energy generated elsewhere

We purchased a reel mower - if properly tuned and sharpened - these new models are easy to use - quiet - good clean exercise - and a 50 foot lot is not too big to do with one of these...

Understandably - there are properties where these reel mowers are simply not capable - due to size and terrain - however - most City lots - are 100% able to be mowed with a reel mower

Another advantage for Red Deer - the grass does not have to be dry to mow - so early morning dew - no problem - afternoon sprinkle - no problem - the opportunities to mow are so much more!!! d:o)

Are other cities doing anything to encourage a switch from gas and electric mowers to push reel machines???

HarmonySH Comment 12.1 23 Oct 2010, 12:01 AM

Push reel mowers rock! We call ours our accoustic mower... we can carry on a conversation even while mowing. It's all anyone with a lawn the size in a city needs! Insent people to replace their noisy polluting energy consuming mowers!

Hairy Comment 12.2 23 Oct 2010, 5:07 AM

I find that VERY hard to believe, unless they're talking about a very old 2 stroke motor. Even then it sounds terribly sensational and still can't compete with backyard firepits and fireplaces. Oh, and my mower is quiet.

Boynorth Comment 12.2.1 23 Oct 2010, 7:07 AM

Hairy - a brand new mower off the shelf has no pollution controls - still emitting fumes... many of the newer cars have such effective pollution controls - that in some smog infested cities it is shown that these cars are actually emitting cleaner air than they take in...

do you hear birds singing while you are mowing??? (I guess "quiet" is a relative term...)

Boynorth Comment 12.2.2 23 Oct 2010, 7:18 AM

I found this site on a mower recycle rebate program - best of all - not taxpayer funded

http://www.summerhillgroup.ca/eng/impact/programs/mow-down-pollution.php

this one is a california based trade in program

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/mowers-244957-gas-program.html

measure mower quietness...

http://www.peoplepoweredmachines.com/environment/mower-noise.htm

and some info on mower pollution...

http://www.peoplepoweredmachines.com/faq-environment.htm

shayjm Comment 13 23 Oct 2010, 12:09 AM

Small businesses and charities can not recycle easily... at my home I can recycle, at work I can not. At work we process a lot of stock, all of it coming in cardboard....we do not have room for the full size dumpster(which only takes carboard, not paper, etc.) that is my only other choice. Our volunteers and staff need to go weekly to the recycling station to recycle. We are lucky if there is enough room in them to leave all that we have. This seriously can't be fixed? Why bother caring about at home recycling if we can't at work?

Traffic is better if we had transit, transit that went more places, more frequently....timing of the lights is key, and roundabouts/traffic circles are a tool all of us can use.

There should be light polution reduction work/bylaw, when it is night... it doesn't need to be high noon because of one light in one parking lot.

sdelaney Comment 14 23 Oct 2010, 9:11 AM

Comprehensive plastics recycling is a priority issue for me - I understand the difficulty is a poor market for plastics other than #2. For me this is not the primary concern, but a problem to be solved - perhaps by researching what other municipalities are doing. I would strongly support subsidizing comprehensive recycling in order to achieve the more important objective of eliminating plastics from our landfills.

icare Comment 14.1 30 Oct 2010, 11:46 AM

I was devastated to find out that the huge amount of yogurt containers that my family goes through end up in the garbage. I am not in Calgary frequently enough to take mine there, where I understand they recycle them. Can we outsource this to a larger market while collecting with our regular recycling? Or can we pressure industry to use only materials that are easily recyclable?

cynthia Comment 15 25 Oct 2010, 11:54 PM

please

remove 20% increase for non residence for available recreation programs:)

I think long time users especially skaters, using older facilities, should not have to see increases - moreover they should get added bonuses like points toward free skates. This could help bring more skaters back & out.,. I especially hope the City will encourage more slow skates to continue for any one wanting to participate vs having age and out of town resident penalties.

thankz 4 UR attention

J1Robertson Comment 16 28 Oct 2010, 1:14 PM

We need a bike/pedestrian (+ horse?) overpass over Hwy 2 from Heritage Ranch to the Fort Normandeau road far more than we need a yet another bridge from Alexander Way over the river to Bower Ponds. (The ponds are easily enough accessible by the Taylor Drive bridge.)

There is NO pedestrian/cycle route over Hwy 2 at 67th or 32nd Street or 11A, or under Hwy 2 along the river. These should be retrofitted to have one; any future bridges over the highway or the river should have a footpath as part of the initial construction.

janndyck Comment 17 4 Feb 2011, 3:00 PM

To go along with the environmental issues with water, something small that adds up is the showers in our recreation facilities. The Collicut and Dawe from my experience have public showers inside the pool facilities that have manual valves on them that are constantly left on by people with no conscience. Removing these manual valves and replacing them with timed flow valves would save a considerable amount of water.

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